Pouvez-vous vivre dans le péché et être sauvé?

Many Christians believe that sin doesn’t matter and that you can live in sin and be saved at the same time. They speak constantly about grace and use the grace of God as a cloak to approve of sin. They believe and say that by faith in Jesus Christ and by His sacrifice and blood you have been made righteous. Therefore it doesn’t matter how you live. You can live the way you want to, because the sacrifice and the blood of Jesus ensure that you stay saved. But ofcourse this is a partial truth aka a lie of the devil that many Christians believe. Because what does the Bible say about living in sin (Persévérer dans le péché) and salvation? Can you live in sin and be saved according to the Bible or not?

What is the false doctrine of the Nicolaitans?

The Nicolaitans were such a group that followed their leader Nicolas and his false doctrine. His false doctrines deceived the Nicolaitans and caused them to deviate from the sound doctrine of Jesus Christ and go astray. The Nicolaitans believed they could keep sinning because they lived under grace and you still live in a sinful flesh.

The Nicolaitans used the grace of God, so that they didn’t have to die to the flesh and put off the old man and put on the new man. They could keep doing the works of the flesh and live sin, sans se sentir condamné, thinking they were saved and escaping the punishment for sin, ce qui est la mort.

John 7:7 Le monde ne peut pas te haïr, mais moi, il me hait, parce que j’atteste que ses œuvres sont mauvaises

But these Nicolaitians didn’t know Jesus experientially. They had no knowledge of the Bible and didn’t have the Holy Spirit.

Plutôt, they followed the words of their leader, who preached this false doctrine; this lie. (Lire aussi: La doctrine et les œuvres des Nicolaïtes).

Although the Nicolaitans were misled and believed this false doctrine and lived by it, because they considered it as the truth, Jesus hated the doctrine and works of the Nicolaitans.

The church at Ephesus hated the works of the Nicolaitans as well, tout comme Jésus.

Cependant, the church at Pergamos (Pergamum), where the throne of satan was, embraced the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. Because some of them held the doctrine of the Nicolaitans.

Jesus didn’t allow the doctrine and works of the Nicolaitans, which caused the church to be defiled. But Jesus called the church at Pergamos to repentance. If they wouldn’t repent, Jesus would come unto them quickly and fight against them with the sword of His mouth. (Révélation 2:6, 15-16 (Lire aussi: What is the throne of satan?)

The devil has deceived many churches with the same lie

We don’t know if the church of Pergamos listened and obeyed the words of Jesus. What we do know is, that the devil has succeeded again, by deceiving many Christians with the same lie and the same doctrine.

The devil has deceived many Christians, by making them believe that it doesn’t matter how you live and that you can live in sin, because you are not saved and justified by your works, but you are saved and justified by the redemptive work of Jesus Christ.

Encore, this is a partial truth that is preached. Oui, you are indeed saved by the redemptive work of Jesus Christ. His blood has cleansed you from all your sins and iniquities and has made you holy and righteous and by which you are saved. No one can earn his salvation by his works. Up to here, it’s correct.

But… The blood of Jesus is not a permit to sin. The blood of Jesus doesn’t give you the right to persevere in sin. 

The sacrifice and the blood of Jesus are not the same as the sacrifice and the blood of animals. The sacrifice and blood of animals provided a temporary atonement for the sins of the people. But the sacrifice and the blood of Jesus don’t provide a temporary atonement but deal with the sinful nature, which reigns in the flesh and from which sin proceeds.

The Old Covenant

Dans l'Ancienne Alliance, which was sealed by the blood of animals, the people of God constantly fell back into the same sin. Because they were still carnal and their spirit was still under the dominion of death.

They were trapped in the (coupable) flesh and the flesh ruled their lives. Therefore they constantly had to make atonement for their sins.

But despite the many sacrifices and the blood that was shed, nothing changed in man’s nature and nothing changed about man’s fallen state and nature. Which is the case in the New Covenant, which is sealed by the blood of Jesus Christ. (Lire aussi: ‘Quelle est la différence entre le sacrifice d’animaux et le sacrifice de Jésus-Christ?').

The New Covenant

Dans la Nouvelle Alliance, it shouldn’t be that those who are saved and belong to God’s people fall into the same sin over and over again and persevere and live in sin. Because they have been delivered from the power of sin and death, through the death of their flesh in Christ. This was not the case in the Old Covenant. So if those, who live in the New Covenant keep sinning then they are not delivered from the power of sin and death (Oh. Hébreux 9, 1 John 1:5-7))

Colossiens 2:11-12 En qui tu es circoncis avec la circoncision faite sans les mains

Dans la Nouvelle Alliance, man has become a new creation through regeneration in Christ, which means the death of the flesh and the resurrection of the spirit from the dead. (Lire aussi: ‘La circoncision dans la Nouvelle Alliance').

The new man is born of God and transferred from the power of darkness into the Kingdom of God, où Jésus-Christ est Roi et règne.

Therefore darkness has no more power over the new man.

The flesh no longer reigns, but Christ reigns in the new man. Since the flesh is dead and the spirit is alive.

Only when the flesh has died and the spirit of man is raised from the dead and the new man has entered the Kingdom of God and walks after the Spirit according to the law of this Kingdom in the light, man shall be saved.

Tout le monde, who is born of God stays in Him and doesn’t sin

Que dirons-nous alors? Devons-nous continuer dans le péché, que la grâce puisse abonder? Dieu pardonne. Comment allons-nous, qui sont morts au péché, y vivre plus longtemps? Tu ne sais pas, que beaucoup d'entre nous qui ont été baptisés en Jésus-Christ ont été baptisés dans sa mort? C'est pourquoi nous sommes enterrés avec Lui par le baptême dans la mort: que comme Christ a été ressuscité des morts par la gloire du Père, même ainsi, nous devrions aussi marcher en nouveauté de vie (Romains 6:1-4)

Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: Celui qui pèche ne l’a pas vu, ni l’un ni l’autre ne le connais. Petits enfants, ne laisse aucun homme te tromper: Celui qui fait la justice est juste, même s'il est juste. He that committeth sin is of the devil; car le diable pèche depuis le début. C’est dans ce but que le Fils de Dieu a été manifesté, afin qu'il puisse détruire les œuvres du diable. Quiconque est né de Dieu ne commet pas de péché; car sa postérité demeure en lui: et il ne peut pas pécher, because he is born of God.En cela, les enfants de Dieu se manifestent, et les enfants du diable: quiconque ne fait pas la justice n’est pas de Dieu, ni celui qui n’aime pas son frère (1 John 3:6-10)

A person may repent and be baptized in water and receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit, but if there is no change in the life of the person and the person keeps doing the works of the flesh and of darkness and keeps walking in unrighteousness in darkness, then the life of the person shows, that the person has not repented and is not born again in Christ. Since the flesh in which sin reigns and from which sin proceeds, est toujours en vie. The flesh has not been crucified in Christ.

The person has not become a new creation and is not yielded to Jesus Christ; the Word and the Holy Spirit and doesn’t do what They say. But the person is still the old creation, who belongs to the devil . Therefore the person still lives in disobedience to God and His Word after the will of the flesh in obedience to the will of the devil and sin and persevere in sin or fall back into the same sin over and over again. (Lire aussi: ‘La volonté de Dieu contre la volonté du diable‘ et ‘L'armure des ténèbres').

The true gospel of Jesus Christ calls to repentance

Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel (Marque 1:14-15)

And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: Et que la repentance et la rémission des péchés soient prêchées en son nom parmi toutes les nations, commençant à Jérusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things (Luc 24:46-48)

Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, Mon fils, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. De plus, nous avons eu des pères de notre chair qui nous ont corrigés, et nous leur rendîmes hommage: Ne serions-nous pas plutôt soumis au Père des esprits, et vie? Car en vérité, pendant quelques jours, ils nous ont châtiés selon leur bon plaisir; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, mais c'est pénible: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby (Hébreux 12:5-11)

The true gospel calls to repentance and sanctification and disciplines and corrects and chastises. The modern gospel, qui n’est pas un évangile, doesn’t contain these elements.

Vers qui l’Église penche-t-elle ses racines?

The modern gospel is a humanistic gospel (message) that pleases the ears, et des sentiments, and emotions of the people in the church.

This gospel welcomes everyone and everyone may stay the way they are. Everything is allowed and tolerated, Il n’y a rien de mal. God loves everyone, Juste comme ils sont. And so sin is embraced instead of condemned and removed. 

Because you have to respect others and forgive and love others instead of condemning them. Mais est-ce vrai?

Where is it written in the Bible, after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, that you have to accept sin and that sin in the church must be tolerated? That if you live in sin you are saved? Where is it written that you must leave those, who persevere in sin alone?

Where is it written that it doesn’t matter if preachers, autre part, and other leaders of the church become disobedient to God and His Word, due to the will, and the lusts and desires of their flesh and fall in sin and/or persevere in sin? (Lire aussi: 'L'esprit d'Eli')

This is nowhere written in the Bible because sin is rebellion and disobedience to God and His will. And how can those, who don’t walk in the will of God and are disobedient to His Word, teach others to walk in the will of God and to be obedient to the Word, so that they will grow up into the image of Christ?

The new creation shall fulfill the righteousness of the law

Ceux, who sin and live in sin and refuse to repent of their lifestyle, show by their works that they don’t belong to Christ and are not saved, but that they still belong to the devil and are not the servants of righteousness but the servants of sin. They are carnal and still listen to the devil and do his will and serve the devil through their flesh. (Lire aussi: 'The commandments of God vs the commandments of the devil').

God has given His commandments to make His will and His nature and righteousness known and to reveal sin. Jesus has never annulled the commandments of the law. But Jesus fulfilled them by walking after the Spirit in the will of the Father in righteousness. Et ceux, who belong to Jesus Christ shall walk after the Spirit instead of the flesh and fulfill the righteousness of the law (Oh. Matthieu 5:17-18, Romains 3:31; 8:4 (Lire aussi: 'L'homme est-il capable d'accomplir la loi?').

“Whosoever does not bear his cross and come after Me can’t be My disciple”

Jésus leur répondit, En vérité, en vérité, je te le dis, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin (John 8:34)

And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, If any man come to me, and hate not his father, et mère, et femme, et les enfants, et frères, et sœurs, ouais, and his own life also, il ne peut pas être mon disciple. And whosoever doth not bear his cross, et viens après Moi, cannot be My disciple (Luc 14:25-27)

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Si quelqu’un veut venir après moi, laisse-le se renier, et prends sa croix, et suivez-moi. Car quiconque sauvera sa vie la perdra: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it (Matthieu 16:24-25, aussi Mark 8:34-35, Luc 9:23-24)

Jesus never spoke about accepting people with a sinful lifestyle. He didn’t preach that sinners could live in sin and stay the way they were and be saved.

Suivre Jésus vous coûtera tout

Jesus was not a Promoter of sin! He didn’t speak about respecting and tolerating sin.

Au contraire, Jésus a dit, that He hated sin and called the sinners to repentance. Parce que tout le monde, who commits sin is a servant of sin and is not saved.

Jésus a dit, that if anyone still loves his own life, and doesn’t deny himself, and doesn’t put Jesus above all, then the person can’t be Jesus’ disciple. 

Jésus a dit, that if any man wants to come to Him and follow Him, then the person must deny himself and take up his cross.

Because if you don’t lose your own life in this world, you shall not find life.

Many churches tolerate sin from both church members as church leaders

Dans le livre de l'Apocalypse, Jesus didn’t speak to the various churches that He respected their behavior and the doctrines and works of the darkness.

Jesus didn’t embrace sin, since sin is the will of the devil. But Jesus commanded the churches to remove the sin, because if they wouldn’t, they would reap the consequences of their disobedience.

Il y a beaucoup d’églises aujourd’hui, where everything is tolerated. They not only tolerate everything from the members of the church, who say they are saved but live in sin and keep sinning. But they also tolerate everything from the preachers and leaders of the church, who are carnal and keep doing the works of the flesh.

Lying, tricherie, fraud, idolâtrie (c'est à dire. Philosophies orientales, yoga, pleine conscience, méditation, arts martiaux, reiki, acupuncture), la sorcellerie, voyance, fornication, adultère, extramarital affairs, divorce, vivre ensemble sans être marié, sexual relationships outside of marriage, porno, homosexualité, and all other (sexuel) impureté, avortement, euthanasie, abusive drinking, etc.. It has all become very normal and is not considered as sin anymore.

The conscience of many Christians is seared with a hot iron and they don’t even know it. They are blinded by the lies of darkness and allow everything.

C’est ce que je dis alors, Marcher dans l'Esprit, et vous n'accomplirez pas les désirs de la chair. Car la chair convoite contre l’Esprit, et l’Esprit contre la chair: et ceux-ci sont contraires l’un à l’autre: de sorte que vous ne pouvez pas faire les choses que vous voudriez. Mais si vous êtes conduit par l'Esprit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, quels sont ceux-ci; Adultère, fornication, impureté, lasciveté, Idolâtrie, la sorcellerie, haine, variance, émulations, colère, conflit, séditions, hérésies, Envies, meurtres, ivresse, réjouissances, et comme ça: dont je vous ai déjà parlé, comme je te l'ai aussi dit dans le passé, afin que ceux qui font de telles choses n'hériteront pas du royaume de Dieu (Galates 5:16-21)

Mais la Bible (le mot) is clear and says, que ces, who do these things are not born of God and don’t belong to God,, and shall not inherit the Kingdom of God (Oh. John 3:3-5, 1 John 3:8-9; 5:18)

Many Christians serve the devil instead of God

Many Christians don’t stand in the service of God and serve God, but stand in the service of the devil and serve him. Because instead of preaching the truth and the gospel of Jesus Christ and reconciling people to God, they preach lies and lead the people astray and make them walk on the broad way that leads to destruction. Because the way of the world doesn’t lead to eternal life but leads to death (o.a. 2 Petrus 2, Jude (Lire aussi: Détruire les œuvres de Dieu au lieu des œuvres du diable).

Repentez-vous car le royaume de Dieu est proche Matthieu 4:17

They are masters in adjusting the truth of God to the will and desires of man and the truth of the world, building bridges with the world and with other religions and philosophies, and adjusting the words of God to approve sin and compromise with sinners.

But preaching the sound gospel of Jesus Christ and calling sinners to repentance and delivering them from the power of sin and death and standing on the Word and keep standing on the Word and representing, preaching and bringing the Kingdom of God and walk in the authority of Jesus Christ on earth, they don’t know anything about and are not familiar with.

Many preachers and elders (dirigeants) of the churches don’t solve the problems. Plutôt, they allow the people to live in sin and leave them in their sins, because they don’t want to hurt or offend anybody’s feelings and don’t want to get involved and cause problems. And so they let everything run its course, hoping that the problems will solve themselves. But problems don’t get solved by themselves but go from bad to worse. (Lire aussi: Que dit la Bible sur le péché dans l'Église?).

Jesus gave His life to deal with the sin problem

Lui qui a lui-même porté nos péchés dans Son propre corps sur l’arbre, que nous, être mort aux péchés, doit vivre pour la justice: par les meurtrissures duquel vous avez été guéris. For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls (1 Pierre 2:24-25)

Jesus gave His life and suffered immensely to deal with the sin problem. The sin problem didn’t solve by itself. But the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, le Fils de Dieu, was needed to solve the sin problem. It was needed to redeem man from sin and death and restore the fallen position of man and reconcile man to God.

Jesus gave His life for man, so that man could be free from the power of sin and death and live in freedom. Because sin is bondage. Sin doesn’t lead to eternal life, as the devil made many Christians believe. But sin leads to death.

les deux grands commandements, Si tu m'aimes, garde mes commandements

Car ceux qui suivent la chair se soucient des choses de la chair; mais ceux qui suivent l'Esprit, les choses de l'Esprit. Car avoir un esprit charnel, c'est la mort; mais avoir un esprit spirituel, c'est la vie et la paix. Parce que l’esprit charnel est inimitié contre Dieu: car elle n’est pas soumise à la loi de Dieu, ni l’un ni l’autre ne peuvent en effet l' (Romains 8:5-7)

Quelqu'un, who lives after the flesh and is carnally minded shall persevere in sin.

Therefore if someone perseveres in sin, it shows that the person is after the flesh and is carnally minded and has not yielded to the Spirit and the law of God (la loi de l'Esprit), but lives in enmity against God and doesn’t love God and doesn’t belong to Him, but still belongs to the devil and death.

If you love God you will keep His commandments

Because if you love God, you will keep His commandments instead of being prideful and rebellious and disobey the Word and live in sin (Oh. Exode 20:6, Deutéronome 5:10, John 14:15, 23)

To be carnally minded is death. Parce que tout le monde, who lives in sin and keeps sinning and doesn’t repent shall deserve death and not, as is preached in many churches, life and be saved (Romains 1:24-32)

What does it mean to not live under the law but under grace?

How often do people say, “I don’t live under the law but under grace”. While they live in disobedience to God and His Word after the flesh in sin, tout comme le monde. So what does it mean that you don’t live under the law but under grace? What is truly written in the Bible about not living under the law but under grace?

Ne laisse donc pas le péché régner dans ton corps mortel, afin que vous lui obéissiez dans ses convoitises. Ne livrez pas non plus vos membres au péché comme des instruments d’iniquité.: mais abandonnez-vous à Dieu, comme ceux qui sont vivants d’entre les morts, et vos membres comme instruments de justice pour Dieu. Car le péché n’aura point de domination sur vous: car vous n’êtes pas sous la loi, mais sous la grâce. Et alors? pécherons-nous, Parce que nous ne sommes pas soumis à la loi, mais sous la grâce? Dieu pardonne. Tu ne sais pas, à qui vous vous livrez comme serviteurs pour obéir, Vous êtes ses serviteurs, à qui vous obéissez; que ce soit du péché jusqu’à la mort, ou de l’obéissance à la justice? Mais Dieu soit loué, que vous étiez les serviteurs du péché, Mais vous avez obéi du fond du cœur à la doctrine qui vous a été transmise. Être alors libéré du péché, Vous êtes devenus les serviteurs de la justice (Romains 6:12-18

Car lorsque vous étiez esclaves du péché, Vous étiez libres de la justice. Quel fruit aviez-vous alors dans les choses dont vous avez honte aujourd’hui? Car la fin de ces choses, c’est la mort. Mais maintenant, être libéré du péché, et devenir serviteurs de Dieu, Vous avez votre fruit pour la sainteté, et la fin la vie éternelle. Car le salaire du péché, c’est la mort; mais le don de Dieu, c’est la vie éternelle par Jésus-Christ notre Seigneur (Romains 6:20-23)

ceux, who live in sin lives under the law

Tout le monde, who walks after the flesh and keeps doing the works of the flesh and therefore perseveres in sin lives under the dominion (autorité) of sin and death and therefore lives under the law of sin and death, qui règne dans la chair.

The only way to ensure that you no longer live under the law but under grace, is through the death of the flesh in Christ. It’s through regeneration in Him and sanctification; putting off the old man and putting on the new man. (Lire aussi: Repoussez le vieil homme et Mettez le nouvel homme).

Ceux, who live in sin are not in Christ and are not saved

Il n'y a donc maintenant aucune condamnation pour ceux qui sont en Jésus-Christ., qui ne marche pas selon la chair, mais selon l'Esprit. Car la loi de l'Esprit de vie en Jésus-Christ m'a affranchi de la loi du péché et de la mort. (Romains 8:1-2)

Mais si vous êtes conduit par l'Esprit, vous n'êtes pas sous la loi (Galates 5:18)

Celui qui demeure en Lui ne pèche pas: Celui qui pèche ne l’a pas vu, ni l’un ni l’autre ne le connais (1 John 3:6)

Donc, people may say they are saved and are not under the law but under grace, but if they still allow sin to reign as king in their lives, by obeying the lusts and desires of the flesh and therefore live in sin, then they are not living under grace. By living after the flesh and doing the works of the flesh, they still live under the law.

Tout le monde, who is not made alive in Christ by the resurrection of the spirit from the dead and doesn’t walk after the Spirit, but still lives under the authority (domination)s of sin and death, still lives under the law.

Tout le monde, who by faith is born again in Christ and saved, and abides in Him, shall not (live in) péché. En réalité, it is written that everyone, who sins has never seen Him, and neither has known Him.

The Word is clear, que ces, who allow sin to reign as king in their lives and obey sin by living in sin, are not delivered and are not saved. But they still live under the authority of sin and death and their final destination shall be the kingdom of death (enfer, Hadès). Since the fruit of death is sin and the wages of sin is death and not eternal life.

Pouvez-vous vivre dans le péché et être sauvé?

He that is of God heareth God’s words: vous ne les entendez donc pas, parce que vous n'êtes pas de Dieu. Then answered the Jews, et lui dit, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, et a un diable? Jésus répondit, Je n’ai pas le diable; mais j’honore mon Père, et vous Me déshonorez. Et je ne cherche pas Ma propre gloire: Il y en a un qui cherche et qui juge. En vérité, en vérité, je te le dis, Si un homme garde Ma parole, Il ne verra jamais la mort (John 8:47-51)

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: et le péché, when it is finished, bringeth forth death (James 1:14-15)

Prenez garde, frères, de peur qu’il n’y ait en l’un de vous un mauvais cœur d’incrédulité, en s’éloignant du Dieu vivant. Mais exhortez-vous les uns les autres tous les jours, alors qu’il est appelé à aujourd’hui; de peur que l’un de vous ne s’endurcisse par la tromperie du péché. Car nous sommes devenus participants du Christ, si nous maintenons ferme le début de notre confiance jusqu'à la fin (hébreu 3:11-14)

Et il me dit :, It is done. Je suis Alpha et Oméga, Le début et la fin. Je donnerai gratuitement à celui qui a soif de la fontaine de l’eau de la vie. Celui qui vaincra héritera de toutes choses; et je serai son Dieu, et il sera mon fils. Mais les craintifs, et incrédule, et l’abominable, et meurtriers, et les prostituées, et sorciers, et les idolâtres, et tous les menteurs, auront leur part dans l’étang qui brûle de feu et de soufre: qui est le deuxième décès (Révélation 21:6-8)

Pouvez-vous vivre dans le péché et être sauvé? Non, you can’t live in sin and be saved. Seulement ceux, who are born again in Christ and are born of God and have become a new creation (fils de Dieu) and submit to Jesus Christ and God the Father and listen to the Word and the Holy Spirit and obey and do the Word and walk after the Spirit and live in righteousness, they shall not see death but shall inherit eternal life.

Sin reigns until death; death in Christ or natural death

The fact of the matter is, that sin reigns as king in people’s lives until death. Cependant, the people determine until which death this is; the death in Christ or natural death

A person can allow sin to reign as king in his lives until his repentance and the regeneration in Christ, when the flesh dies in Him. À partir de ce moment-là, the person is delivered from the power of the devil and the law of sin and death. Through the resurrection of the spirit from the dead, sin and death no longer have authority over the person. But the person has been made free and by walking after the law of the Spirit as an overcomer in Christ the person shall inherit eternal life.

Or a person can allow sin to reign as king in his life until the person dies a natural death, whereby the spirit of man remains under the authority of sin and death unto his death. The person shall not inherit eternal life, but shall go to the kingdom of death (enfer) and on the Day of Judgment be cast into the eternal lake of fire and experience the second death.

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